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Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
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Environmental Issues <[log in to unmask]>, Steve Gregory <[log in to unmask]>
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James,

Although I know Brian doesn't need me defending him. But James, I think you may have stuck your foot in your mouth.

Brian is retired. But probably accomplishes more in his retirement than do most full-time working people.

I suggest that you learn more about this man. Once you do, I think you will find that your comments were at the least, needless, and at the most, insulting.

Steve  

-----Original Message-----
From: EnviroNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of james steele
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [EN] What a waste From Economist.com

  What a waste of our time and your employer.----- Original Message -----
  From: Brian Ellis<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
  To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
  Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 1:48 AM
  Subject: Re: [EN] What a waste From Economist.com


  Joe

  As it happens, I'm ¼-way through developing a web site devoted to the
  problem of waste. It may be published in a couple of weeks or so. In the
  meantime, have a look at http://www.cypenv.org/worldenv/files/tridel.htm<http://www.cypenv.org/worldenv/files/tridel.htm>
  - this describes the most modern implementation of a technology first
  developed in France in the 1920s and is used in odd spots in various
  countries. In the USA, I know Baltimore does it although I believe their
  plant is fairly old and polluting. There are probably many others. In
  contrast, Toronto ships many tens of tonnes of their garbage daily to
  Wayne County, Michigan, where it is landfilled at enormous cost to their
  citizens and enormous quantities of emitted pollutants.

  China is building some low-pollution waste-burning power stations near
  the big cities (Beijing, Chongqing, Shanghai etc.). Anyway, is it a sop
  to the USA that China produces more waste, when it has >4x the
  population? Surely the criterion is the per capita production, where the
  USA (and Cyprus) have the doubtful honour of being world champions!

  Brian

  Joe Fjelstad wrote:
  >
  > Environment
  > What a waste
  > Sep 3rd 2008
  >>From Economist.com
  > The rubbish mountains grow
  >
  > OVER 2.1 billion tonnes of rubbish were dumped around the world last year.  
  > Rich countries are the most wasteful, with each person chucking away 1.4kg of
  > solid trash every day, but this has leveled off in recent years as the rich
  > try  to create less of it and to recycle more. As poorer nations grow richer
  > they  will produce more waste. In 2004 China surpassed America as the largest
  > producer  of rubbish: by 2030 it will be churning out nearly 500m tonnes a  year.
  >
  >
  >
  >
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  > 

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