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Dennis Fritz <[log in to unmask]>
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Dan,

If the build were with glass laminate, I would agree on the cut outs.
However, with construction using polymer layers, a die cut (or laser cut)
should be little problem.

On the discrete component side, the 0402 size is quite large.  I had
thought that 0201s or 01005 components would be required inside the board.
 I think there are Japanese components now available in metric that are
smaller than the 01005 (10 mils by 5 mils).   Since 10 mils by 5 mils is
250 microns by 125  microns, I will try to check to see if the 0402
designation in the article is some metric size discrete.

Denny Fritz



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Re: [EM] "Inserted" embedded components - slides for today's discussion






Dennis,

Thanks for the info. I don't think that the technology for inserting
components into PCBs is a "threat" to embedded passives. The designs
look like a very expensive constructions. Except for "inserting  known
good dies," I doubt that sequentially built PCBs with "cutouts" will be
cost competitive with conventional multilayer PCBs and embedded passive
components. Furthermore, a 1005 size limit (0402 to us) is not small
enough. They will have to do better than that.

Best regards,

Daniel Brandler
Ohmega Technologies, Inc.

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