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"Kimmey, Frank" <[log in to unmask]>
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Mon, 25 Jan 1999 11:02:35 -0800
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Hi Doug,
Per our Design Guidelines we require 40 mils minimum from edge of test
pad to edge of SMT Land and 100 mils from edge of test pad to edge of
PTH. We also require minimum of 100 mils pad to pad. This keeps it easy
for our Factory test guys.
Personally I feel it is imperative that this spec is agreed upon by both
your design and assembly teams.
Keep your Test people in the loop or you are bound to fail sooner or
later.
Hope it's a help.
Give me a call if you need.
FNK

Frank N Kimmey C.I.D.
EM Designer
C & K Systems, Inc.
916-353-5366
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> ----------
> From:         Doug Shawver[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent:         Monday, January 25, 1999 10:37 AM
> To:   Kimmey, Frank
> Subject:      Re: [DC] Testability
>
>
>
> Frank,
>
> How close do you allow ICT test pads to discrete 2 pin part
> bodies like rc0805's located on the side of test probe access?
> (Assuming the height of the 0805 resistors are .025")
>
> Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> "Kimmey, Frank" <[log in to unmask]> on 01/25/99 10:51:23 AM
>
> Please respond to "DesignerCouncil E-Mail Forum." <>; Please respond
> to
>       "Kimmey, Frank" <[log in to unmask]>
>
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> cc:
> Subject:  Re: [DC] Testability
>
> Frank,
>
> How close do you allow ICT test pads to descrete 2 pin
> parts like rc0805's located on the side of test probe access?
> (Assume the height of the 0805 resistors are .025"?)
>
> A response would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
> Doug
>
>
>
> Hey Michael,
>
> I work for a high volume manufacturer (300 active products with >250K
> assy per year)
> Here is how we do it:
>
> 1. Day one. Testability is critical and should be a part of your
> initial
> design review.
> 2. We do not assign properties to pins due to the need to test nets
> not
> pins.
> 3. Functional test points are defined by the Engineer, ICT belong on
> all
> nets.
> 4. We fan out per the design not per the component geometry
> 5. Every board should be routed with test in mind (you never know when
> volumes or need for test may increase)
> 6. Fan-out under component should only be allowed if testability can
> be
> achieved elsewhere (fan-out under component is not preferred but is
> sometimes required due to density)
>
> Hope this helps
> FNK
>
> Frank N Kimmey C.I.D.
> EM Designer
> C & K Systems, Inc.
> 916-353-5366
> [log in to unmask]
> > ----------
> > From:         Kuczynski Michael[SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> > Reply To:     DesignerCouncil E-Mail Forum.;Kuczynski Michael
> > Sent:         Monday, January 25, 1999 4:18 AM
> > To:   [log in to unmask]
> > Subject:      [DC] Testabaility
> >
> > A few questions about testabaility (ICT and functional);
> >
> > How far along in your design process does testabaility issues start?
> >
> > Is anyone out there assigning properties to pins that are required
> for
> > testabaility (in symbol generation)?
> > If yes, How do the designers recoginize them?
> >
> > Who defines critical pins? engineer, librarian, component eng.,
> > designer
> >
> > Does anyone build seperate fan-out geoms for the same geom because
> of
> > testability? (per unique p/n, so you end up w/ 4 versions plcc20)
> > If yes, do you route on a standard grid or gridless?
> >
> > Is each board routed with testabaility in mind, even if it is a
> minor
> > volume
> > and may never reach a test bed?
> >
> > Does anyone NOT ALLOW fan-outs under the component?
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your input,
> >
> > Michael Kuczynski       Librarian/Sr. Designer
> > Allied Signal           201-393-2122 (Phone)
> > 699 Rt46E E/K4          201-393-2357 (Fax)
> > Teterboro NJ 07608
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