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carlos mossin <[log in to unmask]>
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Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:03:30 -0700
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Hi Bill:

This is my number one all time pet peeve.
  A project goes to PCB layout before the schematic is  100% complete. Or
has even been to a design review.  Management thinks that the PCB designer
can at least get started on the project and work concurrently with the the
Design Eng.   What ends up happenning is 20-30 netlists revisions later, I
may have all the info and a complete netlist imported.
Unfortunately for the PCB designer, the meter started running the moment the
first netlist was produced.  the endless cycle of "Churn" as I call it
creates an environment where the PCB designer does not want to actually go
forward with the netlist at hand since he/she is aware its going to change
at anytime.  This then leaves the PCB designer with typically 3-4 days left
in his alotted time scheduled to finish the entire design.  Most often the
design eng. does not want to fess up to management that they made changes to
the design and have eaten up 2 weeks of the 3 weeks that where alloted for
the PCB layout.
 I have since required that during the input review meeting, management show
that the schematic has been reviewed and is ready to go. Of course last
minute changes are inevitable. This has earned me the label of "Hardass"

Anybody have a better sollution?

carlos CID


On 9/26/07, Brooks,Bill <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> OLE_LINK1I have been talking with another designer I know and the topic
> was..."What type of issues do you encounter in your day to day job that
> seem
> to 'get in the way' and prevent your getting your work done correctly
> or  at
> least with a minimum amount of undue effort? "
>
> Personally my issues have been mostly with accurate communications...
> getting good information properly transferred to me with all the necessary
> details to build a part or schematic symbol, or a mechanical constraint or
> part...  details...details...  the 'devil' always lives in the details...
> :-) Seems I am always having to ask about something... what about this
> feature? How much current does this part draw? How much heat needs to be
> dissipated? Are there optional ways this can me solved... etc.. etc..
>
> What are your 'pet peeves' or frustrating issues with getting your designs
> done right?
> What gets in your way?
> What would make your work easier?
> What would you like to add or eliminate from the process?
> What needs adjusting?
> What would fix the problems?
>
> I'm curious to hear other's opinions and thoughts...
>
> Best regards,
>
> Bill Brooks, CID+
>
>
>
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