I would like to get involved in this project also, my degree is in Information
Technology. Where I work they are on a 9/80 so that I am off every other
Friday. If nothing else I could do error checking.
Gary Bremer
Sr. Manufacturing Engineer
Curtiss-Wright Controls
Santa Clarita, California
Quoting Paul Lapointe <[log in to unmask]>:
> George,
>
> Put me on your list. I can do some Perl programming if required
> -------------------------
> Paul Lapointe
> PCB Designer
> Research In Motion (RIM)
> 305 Philip St., Waterloo, ON
> N2L 3W8
> Tel: 519.888.7465 x 2281
> Cell 519.589.4057
> Fax: 519.880.8173
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of
> George Patrick
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] Online Land Pattern Calculator
>
>
> Thanks, Pete :)
>
> --
> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
> http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
> It's my opinion, not Tektronix'
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
> Waddell
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 09:18
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] Online Land Pattern Calculator
>
>
> we'd be happy to host it.
> p.
>
> Pete Waddell
> President
> UP Media Group
> 678-589-8813
> [log in to unmask]
>
> >>> [log in to unmask] 04/08/05 11:35AM >>>
> Thanks Lynn, Jack (and Bill).
>
> I don't know if the original site was JavaScript or a CGI Perl/PHP program
> anyway. Since it's not in use, and unlikely to be in use in the future, it
> should be public domain but probably isn't. Is there anyone on the DC
> executive board that wants to support the members and maybe find out about
> this?
>
> I am going to set up a mailing list in my domain so everybody involved can
> email back and forth without bogging down the IPC server, I am on vacation
> next week and plan to get started the week after. If anyone has some ideas
> about how you want this setup, let me know.
>
> The more people that help out on this, the quicker it's going to be done :)
>
> --
> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
> http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
> It's my opinion, not Tektronix'
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 07:59
> To: (Designers Council Forum); Patrick, George H
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Online Land Pattern Calculator
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like to be involved.
>
> The next part of my self-paced web designin' education is "FORMS" anyway,
> gotta learn it.
>
> I wonder, what are the odds of getting a copy of the old calculator source
> code?
>
> Do you think it should be considered public domain?
>
> How can we get it?
>
> Any IPC heavies out there?
>
> (who still have the free-sharing for the common good spirit?)
>
> (and access to the server? heheh...)
>
>
> Jack
>
> (the "70's teen who wondered where everyone went" guy)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> George Patrick
> <george.h.patrick
> @EXGATE.TEK.COM>
> Sent by: To
> DesignerCouncil To
> <DesignerCouncil@ [log in to unmask]
> ipc.org> cc
>
>
> 04/07/2005 04:03
> PM
>
> Subject
> Please respond to Re: [DC] PCB TECHNOLOGY (2 oz
> "(Designers copper)
> Council Forum)"
> <DesignerCouncil@
> IPC.ORG>; Please
> respond to
> george.h.patrick@
> EXGATE.TEK.COM
>
>
>
>
>
> Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 05/07/2005
> Retention Category: G90 -
> General
> Matters/Administration
>
>
> Jack:
>
> What I had envisioned is a main page linking to separate pages for each
> type
> of part. Each subpage would have the form elements (text boxes, pulldowns,
> etc) needed to input and output the required design information, including
> the stuff to fine tune for a particular company's process. This could be
> done by anyone who knows HTML or one of the HTML editors (like Front Page).
> The JavaScript code to stitch them together and perform the calculations
> would be added by others.
>
> No storage, approval process, or frills. Just a basic calculator (Sort of
> on the order of the trace width calculator on my site.) Since it would be
> based on each a page for each device type, it would lend itself to as many
> people who wanted to volunteer. I would think a minimum of 6 or 7, anyway.
>
>
> Perhaps not enough people know JavaScript or HTML to do this, but I don't
> have the time for this to be just my project. I guess I'm still in the
> 60's, when it still was OK to do things just because it was good for
> others,
> not because you could corner the market.
>
> Old hippies never die, they just disappear in a puff or smoke <:^}
>
> --
> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
> http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
> It's my opinion, not Tektronix'
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 07:53
> To: (Designers Council Forum); Patrick, George H
> Cc: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] PCB TECHNOLOGY (2 oz copper)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi George,
>
> Well, its no stretch of the imagination to think that if IPC is
> collaborating with PCBLibraries on IPC-7351, then they are certainly not
> going to initiate or support anything that looks competitive, which is
> probably why we haven't heard a peep from anyone official about the online
> calculator. Who knows what kind of agreements they made already?
>
> So, we have probably lost that free service forever. We heard it from the
> top, "BUSINESS IS WAR", right? sucks eggs...
>
> Anyhoo, I didn't dare volunteer because I have no idea what you are talking
> about... just kidding! But I don't have good web-programming experience,
> and I don't have a good idea of what it would take to at least get the
> simple functionality working again like it was before. All I know how to do
> is scan my kid's artwork or a photo and slap it into the family webpage. (
> http://frontdoor.biz )
>
> So if you are one of those web-design gurus, what is the perfect number of
> people (enough that no one is overwhelmingly burdened, not so many that
> "too many cooks spoil the pot") and how would you split up the tasks? What
> ARE the tasks, anyway?
>
> Jack (the "afraid of commitment" kinda guy)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> George Patrick
> <george.h.patrick
> @EXGATE.TEK.COM>
> Sent by: To
> DesignerCouncil To
> <DesignerCouncil@ [log in to unmask]
> ipc.org> cc
>
>
> 04/06/2005 06:01
> PM
>
> Subject
> Please respond to Re: [DC] PCB TECHNOLOGY (2 oz
> "(Designers copper)
> Council Forum)"
> <DesignerCouncil@
> IPC.ORG>; Please
> respond to
> george.h.patrick@
> EXGATE.TEK.COM
>
>
>
>
>
> Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 05/06/2005
> Retention Category: G90 -
> General
> Matters/Administration
>
>
> Come on, Jack. Don't get me started about this stuff again :)
>
> By the way, y'all, only one person volunteered to help out with the
> revision
> of the land pattern website to match the new standard, including the DC
> executive board. From the underwhelming response, I will probably just do
> a
> version for in-house use. I guess it's time to join the "what's in it for
> me" crowd ;>
>
> --
> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
> http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
>
> It's my opinion, not Tektronix'
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack C.
> Olson
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 15:23
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] PCB TECHNOLOGY (2 oz copper)
>
>
> I can't help but notice that the "working draft" of IPC-2152 is dated
> November 2002, and ThermalMan was created in December 2002.
> Has this project gone commercial on us now?
>
> There sure was a lot of hype about this a couple of years ago, and still
> nothing practical for the common man.
>
> Is the IPC document release being delayed now that it has been turned into
> a money-making machine?
>
> (If anyone is interested, the working draft on IPC can be downloaded by
> clicking the "DRAFTS" link here:
> http://www.ipc.org/committeedetail.asp?Committee=1-10b )
>
> Maybe the "history" IS becoming "sordid"?
>
> -=-=-=-
>
> Okay, that's two grouchy posts from me in one day... tomorrow I'm turning
> over a new leaf!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Happy Holden
> <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent by:
> DesignerCouncil To
> <DesignerCouncil@ To
> ipc.org> [log in to unmask]
> cc
>
> 04/06/2005 04:20
> PM
>
>
> Please respond to Subject
> "(Designers Re: [DC] PCB TECHNOLOGY (2 oz
> Council Forum)" copper)
> <DesignerCouncil@
> IPC.ORG>; Please
> respond to
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
>
>
>
> Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 05/06/2005
> Retention Category: G90 -
> General
> Matters/Administration
>
>
>
> The history of these charts is pretty funny, maybe sordid is the wrong
> word.
>
> <snip>
>
> What Mike is creating is really a much better
> tool than the charts could ever address...
>
> Thanks for the comments.
>
> Happy Holden
> Westwood Associates
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