Well, I wish I had read all of the responses before posting, but I completely agree with both Jack and Cherie.
Great minds think alike, right?
Odin
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Subject: Re: [DC] Designer's Responsibility ends.....when?
My job is to convert the engineer's idea (schematic) to an actual physical thing he can hold in his hand, so it is my responsibility to provide every type of data needed to fabricate, assemble, test and document the product.
Assuming I have done a good job of creating the data in such a way that will avoid problems, save time, etc (all the DFx considerations), my job ends when I get the various chunks of data into the right hands.
DONE.
Of course, I'm always here to support my customers no matter what happens down the line, but I don't chase anything.
I send the data out, and from that point on - "no news is good news"....!!!
by the way, I'm not suggesting you should actively resist if your company wants you to do MORE, (like quoting, for example) but that's not really the job of a typical circuit board designer in my opinion.
Jack
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On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Horvath, Steven < [log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Well, I think that needs to be qualified up front in the design cycle,
> so the correct types of components and materials are selected to meet
> the specified requirements.
>
> That's not really what I'm driving at in my question though. What I'm
> looking for relates more to how far do we as designers ACTIVELY go in
> tracking the status of a board once it's assembled and handed over to
> EE's or manufacturing. Is it our responsibility to know if the board
> is performing as it should? Are we directly responsible to find out
> that information?
>
> Steve Horvath
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> Hi Steve,
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> You might not want to hear this, but, besides function, the design
> shall also ensure long term reliability. And since the long term
> reliability goes all the way until the end of the life cycle of the
> product, the designer should be liable a long time after the design is
> completed and successfully tested for functionality.
>
> I suggest IPC-D-279 as a good reading.
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> De : DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de
> Horvath, Steven Envoyé : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:56 AM À :
> [log in to unmask] Objet : [DC] Designer's Responsibility
> ends.....when?
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> Hello:
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>
> Just want to get an opinion on a certain matter. Where does a
> designers responsibility end? After successful assembly, after
> successful functional tests by EE's? System test? By responsibility, I
> mean tracking wise. Should we be chasing after EE's to make sure
> everything tested out okay, while were busy designing another board?
> How far do we chase? How far do they
> (MGMT) expect YOU to chase?
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> Thank You,
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