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Before you go through all the work of developing your own company DFX guideline...
IPC is building a complete DFX program, which includes:

1. IPC industry Guideline for DFX-Design For Excellence: 
    This document will help users to customize their own DFX guidelines for every project
    
    A range of IPC manufacturability standards are covered, along with the reasoning behind them.
    Including DFM (Design For Manufacturability), DFA (Design For Assembly), DFT (Design For Test), and more.

    The IPC DFX Guideline is in development now with a Committee of technologists, scheduled for release by Q3 of 2015

2. A full-day educational course
    This class does not simply review the Guideline document - it provides additional information:
     practical knowledge from experts with global manufacturability experience

    Available NOW: on-site at the IPC APEX EXPO show as a professional development course, and on request from IPC program manager

All engineering staff and management involved in product development will benefit from the IPC DFX program:
Design, Fabrication, Assembly, Test, Sales

Please let me know how I can provide more information for your team,
Anne Marie Mulvihill
Program Manager
IPC-Association Connecting Electronics Industries
3000 Lakeside Drive, Suite 309S
Bannockburn, IL 60015-1249 USA
+ 1-847-597-2827 tel
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-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Silicon Valley Chapter - IPC Designers Council
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 10:22 PM
To: DesignerCouncil
Subject: Re: [DC] DFM, DFA, DFT, DFX

DFX also means Design For eXcellence  :-)

Just so happens that I am doing some review of this topic right now, gathering data for a company guideline.
Already have input from Jabil and NBS. Also an unfinished 2003 pdf from Tom Hausherr of PCB Libraries.
If you don't mind sharing, feel free to send me your reference docs or URLs for my studies.

Thanks,
Bob McCreight, C.I.D.
IPC Designers Council
Silicon Valley Chapter

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On Tue, 9/16/14, Brooks, William <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Subject: [DC] DFM, DFA, DFT, DFX
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Date: Tuesday, September 16, 2014, 3:31 PM
 
 I recall discussing DFM
 awhile back and it occurs to me that there is one additional  area that belongs in the DF'X' family of Design  Practice Criteria...
 
 Design
 for Reliability... :)
 
 
 
 
 William
 Brooks, CID+
 Senior MTS (Contract)
 2747 Loker Ave West
 Carlsbad,
 CA 92010-6603
 760-930-7212
 Fax:        760.918.8332
 Mobile:    760.216.0170
 E-mail:    [log in to unmask]
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Brooks, William
 Sent: Monday,
 September 15, 2014 10:00 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 The webinar was from 2011 and covered both HDI  solid plated holes in 100um and 200um thick materials for  blind thru hole applications by Mark Lefebvre and High  Aspect ratio thru hole plating using Periodic Pulse Reverse  Plating By Dennis Yee. (I just watched it)
 
 Screaming Circuits has a photo
 illustration of an example  of what I was thinking  about...  http://screamingcircuits.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c008a53ef013484716f88970c-pi
 
 I'm told that both Via
 systems and TTM can do solid copper filled vias and stacked  microvias... Though I have not had any made for boards I  have been working on yet. Don Carron did a great  presentation for the Designers Council here in San Diego all  about different types of vias and their applications and the  processes to create them... and we talked a bit about this  subject of solid copper vias... One of the concerns was that  the solid copper CTE is very different from the surrounding  epoxy glass and at some point the solid copper would really  create stress in the board around the hole over thermal  excursions from let's say -20C to +80C normal component  operation temperature extremes... or especially during  reflow soldering. So there are probably practical limits on  your board thickness to get away with using this  technology... What the limits are I am not sure...
 
 
 William
 Brooks, CID+
 Senior MTS (Contract)
 2747 Loker Ave West
 Carlsbad,
 CA 92010-6603
 760-930-7212
 Fax:        760.918.8332
 Mobile:    760.216.0170
 E-mail:    [log in to unmask]
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Brooks, William
 Sent: Monday,
 September 15, 2014 8:02 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 Copper plated filling of traditional thru holes  vias is real... it is being done.
 Please
 check Dow's website... nice webinar explains the process  and chemical requirements.
 
 http://storage.dow.com.edgesuite.net/flash_video/electronic_materials/4_27_11%20Webinar/files/default.html?contenttype=A&titlecolor=000000&eventid=291345&key=B619E6875E5601E4BC8415DD4C884730&text_language_id=en&sessionid=1&playerwidth=900&playerheight=675&helpcenter=false&format=wmaudio&mobile=false&flashsupportedmobiledevice=false&helpcenter=false
 
 
 
 William Brooks, CID+
 Senior MTS
 (Contract)
 2747 Loker Ave West
 Carlsbad, CA 92010-6603
 760-930-7212
 Fax:
 760.918.8332
 Mobile:    760.216.0170
 E-mail:    [log in to unmask]
 
 
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of iTech iCollege iSrael ????? ?????????? ?????
 Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2014 6:56 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 Filled Vias can be made only for microVias, not  traditional Vias which can be tented or covered
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Varughese, Renjith
 Sent:
 Friday, September 12, 2014 4:58 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 Hello Veronica,
 
 Solid Copper filled vias you mentioned are  about micro vias or traditional through hole vias?
 
 Thanks and regards,
 
 Renjith Varughese
 
 Honeywell Honeywell Technology
 Solutions Lab Pvt. Ltd Adarsh Prime Project Pvt Ltd Survey  No 19/2, Devarabisanahalli Village, K.R. Puram Hobli  Bangalore East Taluk Bangalore - 560 103 Phone # - 26588360  Extn 50211
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Anderson, Veronika
 Sent:
 Friday, September 12, 2014 4:28 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 Bill,
 
 Can you
 clarify your definition of "copper filled via"?
 As far as I know, there is no via filling  material that can be called a "copper fill".
 As you mentioned, the thicker plating improves  the thermal transfer and current carrying characteristics of  via.
 I've seen the drawings with a note
 "vias can be plated shut".
 However, the conventional plating process  cannot close the via completely - there is always an air gap  in the middle.
 The Reverse Pulse Plating
 Process provides the "solid copper plated via". So  far only a few PWB manufacturers do that.
 If
 you use a solid copper plated vias in your designs, please  share a name of PCB manufacturer that builds your boards.
 
 Regards,
 
 Veronika Anderson C.I.D | Sr.
 Electrical/Mechanical Design Engineer | Excelitas  Technologies
 
 Office:  +1
 626.967.9521 x 236
 1330 East Cypress Street,
 Covina, CA 91724 USA [log in to unmask]  www.excelitas.com
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]  On Behalf Of Brooks, William
 Sent: Thursday,
 September 11, 2014 9:31 AM
 To: [log in to unmask]
 Subject: Re: [DC] Vias
 
 Peter was talking with me about using vias in  thermal pads and how some still leave an open aperture the  size of the thermal pad for their solder paste...
 This can cause the solder paste when it melts  to be wicked down the via holes starving the part for  solder... depending on the diameter of the vias and how many  there are...
 One method to reduce this
 effect is to change the stencil aperture to a pattern that  avoids the vias and helps distribute the paste over the  thermal pad area evenly...
 See this
 illustration by Texas Instruments...
 
 http://www.ti.com/ods/images/SNLS302D/sample_layout_DAP_snls302.png
 
 Another thing that helps is to
 reduce the diameter of the via to reduce its wicking  volume... smaller holes wick less...
 I have
 used .008 in. diameter vias for that purpose before...
 
 Or... you can have the via
 holes filled and planarized... thus no extra solder is  wicked down the holes...
 Partial filling
 tends to cause problems...
 For example:
 Trapped gases will expand in the high heat of the reflow  oven and cause solder balls to occur...
 This
 is bad for your design when installed in the electronics  application it typically must work in because solder balls  are conductive and can cause shorts between pins and exposed  pads or get loose in vibration and bounce around to other  assemblies and cause the same sort of problems.
 
 Also I have found that filling
 vias with solder does not improve their thermal transfer  characteristics very much... Solder is not that great a heat  conductor. Copper is the best thermal conductor typically  for our PCB applications... so thicker copper plating in the  holes or copper filled vias are bound to be far superior for  thermal transfer reasons than filling the vias with  solder.
 
 
 
 William Brooks, CID+
 
 
 
 
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