Seems like this is an international problem, most times I have been pleaded
to "ASSIST" with a design because generally (at least in mine) the work is
done for someone I know. As this is after hours work and is considered an
"ASSISTANCE" you are expected to keep your costs extremely low, because
these "engineers" assume its just a case of joining the dots. Forget any
cost adjustments for changes, mods and or "nice to have". Any designer will
tell you the manufacturing datapack is the most time consuming stage, so
imagine the irritation when a change is introduced after the PACK is
generated. All this is done with a RUSH RUSH attitude as the design needs
get into the market NOW. In the beginning both parties understood that the
work will be done after hours, that understanding flies out the window
towards the end.
Heres what I have done with a degree of success.
Once the design is complete I negotiate with the PCB manufacturing house for
the prototypes. I ask the person who contracted me to transfer the payment
of the prototype pcbs into my account. I sign an NDA (non disclosure
agreement) with the manufacturing house. Once the Prototypes have proven
successful no pcbs get manufactured without my knowledge. That way any
further progress can be negotiated.
works for me
Billy Bharath
Prism
South Africa
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Irigoyen" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 10:44 AM
Subject: [DC] Designer beware
> Hello everyone,
>
> I really hate using this forum for this purpose but I just don't want
to
> see any other designer getting screwed the way I did.
> I provided PCB design services for a company in Jan 2003. They did not
> pay me for the work then and have still not paid me, with interest
> accruing monthly. I've heard promise after promise but still no money.
> Now they need some revisions to the board and have asked me to provide
> additional services for a "promise to pay" some time in the near
future.
> I have taken the stand "pay me for what I've already done and I'll do
> the new work with a promise to pay".
>
> I believe they are now shopping for someone else to do the work. I
have
> the original database (and won't give it up) so the job will need to
be
> recreated from scratch.
>
> Here is the information I can provide:
> The company is/was Products Research, Inc. formerly based in Addison,
IL
> but was forced out of their office due to lack of finances.
> The board is a 6-layer (4 sig, 2 plane) mixed tech (SMT&TH) with SM on
> both sides, called the Advantage 2.
> Contacts: Jack Paul and/or Dick Kaman
>
> If any of you have been contacted for this job BEWARE. If you would
like
> to speak to me about this please call the number below.
>
> Also, please don't respond to this email. I'm sending out for
> informational purposes only.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mario Irigoyen
> 630-853-9657 Cell
> [log in to unmask]
>
>
Mario,
Sorry to hear about your problem.
I've had the same thing happen, and still haven't worked out a method
that
I'm 100% satisfied with.
It's good that you posted your information here, not only for yourself
but
for others as well.
Gook luck with getting paid.
Richard
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