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! ! ! . . . I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT . . . ! ! !

In my opinion this forum is the primary vehicle
to share information related to the Designer's
Council. My area doesn't have chapter meetings
anymore, and THIS is my only contact with the
DC world.

I want EVERYTHING related to it to come right
to my doorstep without me having to seek it out.

The convenience of this benefit,
far outweighs the burden on my mailbox.

So I say....  B R I N G   I T   O N !

Jack
(the "don't make me come down there" guy)

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and...
As long as you are asking my opinion,
Here is one more:

I would prefer to dedicate this listserv as the
source for Designer Council information, and
use Pete Waddell's PCDList for discussion about
actual circuit board design issues. There are a
lot of people who want to talk about PCBs who
aren't as interested in the DC council stuff.

If you aren't there yet, try
http://www.pcdandm.com/pcdmag/resource/forum.shtml






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Mike makes a great point here. Thanks for taking the time to write, Mike.

So let me do a straw poll:

How many of the subscribers to this Forum would like to see more detail
about Designers Council affairs, progress and thinking?

How many would like to see Chapter reports circulated on this Forum?

Include your own opinions if you would like to add to this discussion.

If there's enough groundswell, I'll talk to the Exec and see how we can
implement it, then make a recommendation to Jean Hebeisen and Christ
Poulsen.

Andy Kowalewski
Chairman
IPC Designers Council Executive Board

Phone +61 2 9456 7984
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-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike
Buetow
Sent: Thursday, 24 March 2005 03:07
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] IPC Design Specifications (or new subject maybe)

Barbara is right on: One of the things that I've always felt distinguishes
designers is that they've never let hurdles like no company money or a lack
of respect get in the way. They are tenacious, capital T, and god bless
them
for it.

Dieter and I used to come back from the design shows shaking our heads in
admiration at how starved the designers were for information -- often from
within their own companies -- and how grateful they were to get it.

I think what we're hearing is that designers want more information, not
less. Yes, occasionally all heck will break loose as people read and
respond
to what the EB is doing. But that's how you encourage involvement. Cutting
people off (which I know is not what Andy or the EB has in mind, by the
way,
so save your hate mail :-)) from the info flow only serves to disengage
them
from the process, and ultimately they will usually give up.

As a start, might I suggest posting the minutes of the Designers Council
executive board meeting and like meetings to this listserv.

Also, since publication of the Route seems to be, well, erratic, I would
suggest pre-empting that and posting chapter reports direct to this
listserv.

All DC members should subscribe to this listserv, and would have a good
reason to, assuming some of this info is regularly circulated here.

Mike

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