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Susy Webb <[log in to unmask]>
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Tue, 27 Sep 2005 09:34:27 -0500
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Hi all,

I agree with Matthew and others... Ours is a very challenging job IF it is done right, and there are so many more things that are in our realm of responsibility that CAD or PCB draftsman just does not work any more. My last three companies have called me a Sr PCB Layout Engineer and I like that, and think it is quite descriptive of what I do!

Susy


>
> From: Matthew Lamkin <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2005/09/27 Tue AM 03:00:12 CDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] Difference between PCB designer and PCB design Engineer
>
> There may well be 2 different types of engineer designing boards, but people, don't think that just because someone does not initially design the actual circuit they are any lesser!
> In fact it could be the opposite.
>
> My job title is PCB Draftsman, I don't "design" the circuit, other engineers do that, they fill out a BOM & raise ECN's too.
>
> I take their fag packet drawings & ideas & turn them into a manufacturable product, adding the EMC/DFT etc bits into them & coming up with a finished board that is both well suited to the
> job & is manufacturable.
>
> There are so many degree qualified electronic engineers that although they really know their stuff in electronics are absolutely useless at board layout, they have to do all sorts of other jobs as well as design a board.
>
> They forget EMC, forget decoupling, terminations & how to make them so that the assembly dept does not struggle to build them, I have to do all these things daily.
>
> I look on myself as a specialist in the field, doing board layout all my working day, not just a small percentage of it. It has been said that my boards are a damn site better than any that the "engineers" could ever do.
>
> Matthew Lamkin.
> hookemuper!
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Kevin
> L. Seaman
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 7:40 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] Difference between PCB designer and PCB design
> Engineer
>
>
> Brad,
>
> In 1978 I worked with Dave Helm at Floating Point Systems in Beaverton,
> Oregon. He use to say that there were TWO kinds of PCB Designers:
>
>         1) the kind who DESIGN boards
>
> and...
>
>         2) the kind who HOOK 'EM UP
>
> Kevin L. Seaman
> OrCAD CIS Librarian
> Allegro PCB Librarian
> Sr. Staff PCB Layout Engineer
> Broadcom Corp. Irvine, CA
> (949)926-5656 (ext. 65656)
>
> P.S.
> Yes, I made up those job titles all by myself...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Jaurique, Brad
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 10:52 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [DC] Difference between PCB designer and PCB design Engineer
>
> All,
>
>         I am in debate with my Director, who is/was a mechanical Engineer,
> over what the difference is between these two job descriptions.  I believe
> some
> of our designers do the job design engineer and I want to prove it.
>
>         Does anyone have job descriptions etc on these.  I am also trying
> to rewrite our very weak current descriptions.  We have 3 Senior designers
> who all do the job differently and have different levels of experience. I
> don't
> feel you should have a title senior because you have been designing for lots
> of years. You could have lots of years of the same experience. You should
> be titled Senior due to range of experience and level of that.
>
>         Sorry if I am ranting but this is important to me.
>
> Brad Jaurique C.I.D.
> Senior PCB Designer
> Pelco
> (559)292-1981 ext. 2347
> [log in to unmask]
> Tell me and I forget;  Show me and I remember; Involve me and I understand.
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