Jim,
We too are living with the slow and painful death known as Mentor.
Your message rang loud and clear with us too. We are about done with paying
high maintenance
fees and receiving nothing in return. I have recently talked to Intercept,
Cadence and Veribest.
My question is, as a Mentor "user" (aka - someone who is forced to use it)
have you looked
at Intercept's Pantheon? I find it attractive due to the direct portability
from Mentor!
Please let me know what your thoughts are....
Art Rambo
Team Leader - PCB Design/TAP Products
Westell, Inc
750 N Commons Dr
Aurora, Il 60504
(630)375-4346 - voice
(630)898-5290 - fax
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Hi Brian
My name is Jim Schey and I work at Rockwell Automation - Allen Bradley.
Here we have at least one of every cad package offered in the past 10
years. The list is dwindling and currently the three most popular is
Incases, Pads, and Mentor. After four years of trying to make Mentor a
preferred tool this idea died a slow death. Some of the groups that went
with the mentor tools found themselves with less functionality than they
had prior to converting, very large maintenance bills and major bugs that
to this day are not fixed. Some had migrated over to Pads which was PC
based which a lot of engineering groups preferred over Unix. After two
years of evaluation we keep coming back to Incases, Theda 6.0. It
satisfies our needs with the functionality we once had and the price is
affordable, support is great and it interfaces to all of our other packages
we use. We are currently evaluating a product called Elixir from Incases
to manage our libraries for schematic, pcb, simulation and component
engineering. We can really have a global library so that the Pads users
can pull down a part configured for Pads or for Mentor. We found that if
we build the part in Theda 6.0 we can generate a library part for mentor
and pads. We cannot load a mentor library and build a Theda part, it is
missing too much information. Pads is a nice package and is sufficient for
some of our divisions but Theda runs on NT or UNIX and data bases are very
portable. One of our divisions uses Zuken and the have had success with
the tool set but have had some missing functionality that again we have
already in Incases tools. Again this is just a quick overview of what we
have and what we have done in the last 2 years and where we are headed. We
could get together off line and get into detail if you would desire.
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Subject: [DC] Opinions needed on CAD software
Hello everyone!
Well its the new year and after seven years of the same design
software we are finally getting a chance to check out new software.
Of course just like the rest of you, who has that kind of time! So
I'm going to throw a list of packages at ya that we're looking at and
see if we can get a little help from the world wide Designer network.
OK here we go, listed below are the packages we have in mind, if you
use one of these could you take a minute and jot something down.
Remember it's nice to know about the good things as well as the bad.
OrCAD, Inc
Software: OrCAD Capture CIS (Release 9)
OrCAD Layout Plus (Release 9)
Zuken-Redac Inc.
Software: Cadstar
VeriBest, Inc.
Software: Ascent L2
Company: Cadence
Software: Allegro Studio
ACCEL Technologies, Inc
Software: Accel EDA
PADS Software, Inc.
Software: PADS Power PCB
Mentor Graphics Corporation
Software: Board Station
Hopefully this will help other designers also if their in the middle
of making a decision.
Thanks to everyone in advance!
Brian J. Baltus
Best Power, Inc
608-565-5118
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