Kitty,
Yes that was part of my comment also if you're really dealing
with very complex rule sets, it is very hard to get it to do what you
want.
Even dealing with split planes and different types of connections to
those
planes can take a few tries to get it right, or at all sometimes.
The only other issues besides rule sets is the way they handle
Draft layer to do assembly drawings etc. Still has some issues.
But yes you do get what you pay for.
If you are dealing with very complex design rules I would say
yes you need to be in either Expedition or Allegro.
Bob
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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Kitty Hines
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 10:02 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Cost of Altium and other packages
My 2 cents. I have used PADS, OrCAD, PCAD, Protel, Eagle and now
Altium.
PADS is by far the best of all these...but I was working with a package
that had all the bells and whistles, $$$. I guess you get what you pay
for. Altium has been working well, my only issue with it is setting up
rules. The way you have to set them up is not very user-friendly at
all.
It's kinda like writing in Boolean, and then they don't always work like
you'd think they should. If they could improve on that, the package
would
get a big thumbs up from me.
The ad was Great, though! It did stir up interest and catch everyones'
attention.
Kitty Hines
The Chamberlain Group, Inc.
(630)516-6655
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Charles Gervasi
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respond to
Charles Gervasi
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Andy,
Do you know about how much Altium costs?
I've used Allegro Lite (marketed as OrCAD PCB Designer) and Eagle. I've
used PADS to review files, but I haven't designed a board in it. They
all
seem roughly the same. Some things are harder to do in one than the
others, but none of them seems completely superior. PADS and Allegro
Lite
cost around US$6000, and they try to get maintenance on top of that.
Electronics WorkBench is about the same, and I used to think of it as
the
inexpensive one. EagleCAD, however, costs $1000 for full schematic and
layout.
Do you know what makes some packages (such as Eagle) less expensive than
others?
BTW, this funny ad has gotten on talking about their product. They did
a
good job on it.
CJ
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Andy
Kowalewski
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 8:33 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Not sure if anyone caught this on PCBD&F...
Great ad. Very catchy.
Thought I should comment, seeing as it's an Australian product. I've
been
using Altium (Summer '08) for just over a month now, and it blows me
away
about how it gets the job done. I've been around a long time and used
more
than a few cad tools, and this one is right on the money. Speaking of
which, it's not very expensive and represents fantastic value with what
it
can do. And the 3D scenes in the blurb are really that quick - I
couldn't
believe it when I was having a look at how it works.
No , I don't make commissions. No, I don't sell it. And no, I don't have
any relatives working in the company. But yes, I'd like to spread the
word
about anything that helps board designers. And let me tell you, once you
learn the funky Altium does some things, it's nothing short of
brilliant.
Cheers.....
Andy K
0424 432 235
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Joe
Matthews
Sent: 2008 11 25 12:05
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [DC] Not sure if anyone caught this on PCBD&F...
I just about spit my milk through my nose when I saw this. Pretty
clever... It's on the main page at PCBD&F. Can't help but relate
(sadly).
http://nextgenerationelectronicsdesign.com/?ref=8
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