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Jack Olson <[log in to unmask]>
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My job is to convert the engineer's idea (schematic) to an actual physical
thing he can hold in his hand, so it is my responsibility to provide every
type of data needed to fabricate, assemble, test and document the product.
Assuming I have done a good job of creating the data in such a way that
will avoid problems, save time, etc (all the DFx considerations), my job
ends when I get the various chunks of data into the right hands.
DONE.
Of course, I'm always here to support my customers no matter what happens
down the line,
but I don't chase anything.
I send the data out, and from that point on - "no news is good news"....!!!

by the way, I'm not suggesting you should actively resist if your company
wants you to do MORE, (like quoting, for example) but that's not really the
job of a typical circuit board designer in my opinion.

Jack
http://frontdoor.biz/HowToPCB/

On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Horvath, Steven <
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> Well, I think that needs to be qualified up front in the design cycle, so
> the correct types of components and materials are selected to meet the
> specified requirements.
>
> That's not really what I'm driving at in my question though. What I'm
> looking for relates more to how far do we as designers ACTIVELY go in
> tracking the status of a board once it's assembled and handed over to EE's
> or manufacturing. Is it our responsibility to know if the board is
> performing as it should? Are we directly responsible to find out that
> information?
>
> Steve Horvath
> SR. PCB Designer - CID/ Team Lead
> AME Test Group
> O: +1 630.285.5840  | M: +1 630.788.3429
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> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ioan
> Tempea
> Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:06 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DC] Designer's Responsibility ends.....when?
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> Hi Steve,
>
> You might not want to hear this, but, besides function, the design shall
> also ensure long term reliability. And since the long term reliability goes
> all the way until the end of the life cycle of the product, the designer
> should be liable a long time after the design is completed and successfully
> tested for functionality.
>
> I suggest IPC-D-279 as a good reading.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ioan Tempea, P. Eng.
> Manufacturing Engineer, Satellite Systems
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> De : DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] De la part de
> Horvath, Steven Envoyé : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:56 AM À :
> [log in to unmask] Objet : [DC] Designer's Responsibility
> ends.....when?
>
> Hello:
>
>
> Just want to get an opinion on a certain matter. Where does a designers
> responsibility end? After successful assembly, after successful functional
> tests by EE's? System test? By responsibility, I mean tracking wise. Should
> we be chasing after EE's to make sure everything tested out okay, while
> were busy designing another board? How far do we chase? How far do they
> (MGMT) expect YOU to chase?
>
> Thank You,
>
>
>
>
> Steve Horvath
> SR. PCB Designer - CID/ Team Lead
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