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There's another useful psychological trick that I have used in the past.
When a company owes you money and won't pay, find the CEO or the CFO and
discuss the issue, tell them you've tried really hard within normal channels
and still can't get paid, and when they feed you all the standard excuses,
ask them "Well, can you at least give me $5 on the account". Interest
piqued, they invariably ask "Why?" You reply "So I'll have some money to buy
bread and milk for the children". That usually raises a laugh and five times
out of ten gets them off of their butts with a good result.

Comes a time when anything is worth a try :-)

Andy Kowalewski
Phone National (02) 9499 4853
International  +61 2 9499 4853
Skype  andyk_01
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-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Johnson,
Joseph SEA
Sent: Friday, 16 September 2005 00:58
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] Designer beware

 I always went and stood in the presidents office until the check was
cut.  Of course if it is the president that is doing this it wouldn't
help much.

Joe J.



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From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Roger Stoops
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2005 14:53
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Subject: Re: [DC] Designer beware




Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until: 10/14/2005
Retention
Category:  G90 - General Matters/Administration


Hello everyone,

I really hate using this forum for this purpose but I just don't want to
see any other designer getting screwed the way I did.
I provided PCB design services for a company in Jan 2003. They did not
pay me for the work then and have still not paid me, with interest
accruing monthly. I've heard promise after promise but still no money.
Now they need some revisions to the board and have asked me to provide
additional services for a "promise to pay" some time in the near future.
I have taken the stand "pay me for what I've already done and I'll do
the new work with a promise to pay".

I believe they are now shopping for someone else to do the work. I have
the original database (and won't give it up) so the job will need to be
recreated from scratch.

Here is the information I can provide:
The company is/was Products Research, Inc. formerly based in Addison, IL
but was forced out of their office due to lack of finances.
The board is a 6-layer (4 sig, 2 plane) mixed tech (SMT&TH) with SM on
both sides, called the Advantage 2.
Contacts: Jack Paul and/or Dick Kaman

If any of you have been contacted for this job BEWARE. If you would like
to speak to me about this please call the number below.

Also, please don't respond to this email. I'm sending out for
informational purposes only.

Best regards,

Mario Irigoyen
630-853-9657  Cell
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