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Try Vishay Sfernice TS53YL available from Newark & Mouser.

Regards,
Steve Smith
Product Engineer
Staco Energy Products Co.
Web Site: www.stacoenergy.com


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From: Race, Albert [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 2:37 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [DC] Looking for 2nd source for component....


Good afternoon,

Does anyone out there know of a direct replacement for a bourns 3224x series potientiometers. or of any sources that might have these commonly available. I am interested in :

5K - 3224x-1-502E
2K - 3224x-1-202E
10K - 3224x-1-103e

Any help would be greatly appreciated... Thank you in advance...

Regards,
Albert

Albert F. Race, C.I.D.
PCB Designer
Roper Scientific
3660 Quakerbridge Road
Trenton,  NJ  08619
Phone: 609-587-9897 x203
Fax: 609-587-1970

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack C. Olson [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 2:06 PM
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> Subject:      Re: [DC] Clearance rules.
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> That is a very good answer, thank you for explaining it.
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> Can you also explain why you use 10mil via-to-pad?
> Do you tent vias?
> If so, do you cover them completely or only up to the drill size?
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> thanks again,
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> Jack
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> Jack:
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> Consider this:
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> If you have a trace 5 mils from a pad you may not be able to guarantee 
> total coverage of that trace by soldermask.  If your vendor uses a 
> copper to soldermask registration tolerance of +/- 3 mil (not 
> uncommon), they probably
> will require a 3 mil clearance from pad to soldermask edge so they can
> always keep soldermask off the pad.  This means if the registration is
> right
> on, you will have 2 mils of soldermask between the pad and trace.  Now,
> what
> if the registration DOES slip by 3 mil?  The boards are within tolerance,
> but your trace is hanging 1 mil out from under the soldermask.  Hope the
> paste doesn't come off the pads, the tolerance for that is usually +/- 5
> mils and if it is touching both the exposed trace AND the pad it'll
> probably
> bridge...
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> This is why we usually keep trace to pad at least 6 mil unless we are 
> VERY packed, and keep visa to pad at around 10 mils (except under .8 
> or less pitch BGAs), even more if we are wave soldering
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> Probably not a lot of chance of all this happening at once, but ol' 
> Murphy has ALWAYS been an optimist. :)
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> George Patrick
> Tektronix, Inc.
> Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> Phone: 503-627-5272         Fax: 503-627-5587
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack C. Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 9:24 AM
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> Subject: Re: [DC] Clearance rules.
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> I am curious why your via-to-via and via-to-pad clearances are so 
> large. To me, the edge of a via pad is no different than the edge of a 
> trace, so why can't the clearance be the same 5 mils? (as long as you 
> maintain your drill to copper, that is) I don't know if I could even 
> route a board with 14mil clearances!
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> I haven't done .8mm BGAs, only 1mm.
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> Good Luck,
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> Jack
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> My company has an Allegro and a Pads department. We design mostly 
> proto- type boards. We are trying to establish a standard set of 
> clearance rules. The IPC standards are too large for the density of 
> the majority of our boards. I have used a 16/8mil via for .8mm BGA on 
> a .093 board, but only after confirmation from the board shop. I would 
> like to have the opinions of people outside of the company. Below is a 
> list of the Pads start list. Via to Pad = 14mil Via to Trace = 5mil
> Via to Via = 14 mil
> Trace to Pad = 5mil
> Drill to trace =10mil
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> I am also curious how other handle the .8mm BGAs.
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> Thank you for any assistance.
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