I am told I am not subscribed yet I keep getting messages. Can you take care
of this?
Thanks,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: L-Soft list server at IPC (1.8d) [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2000 8:20 AM
To: Stephen Joy
Subject: Your request to sign off the DesignerCouncil list


Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:20:13

No entry for  your [log in to unmask] address could be  found in the
DesignerCouncil  list at  JEFRY.IPC.ORG. Here  are a  number of  possible
reasons why you might still be getting mail from the list:

1. You could be subscribed under a different, but equivalent address. For
instance, if  your e-mail address  as it appears  in the 'From:'  line of
messages coming from you has the  misfortune of depending on the distance
between your  workstation and the  terminal room door, you  were probably
subscribed from  a different  address and, while  your mail  system knows
that the two addresses are equivalent,  LISTSERV has no way to know that.
In this case the only thing you can do, beyond contacting the list owner,
is to  send a  "REVIEW DesignerCouncil"  command to  find out  under what
address you are subscribed, and try to duplicate it with the help of your
user support people.

2. If you are a BITNET user,  you might be subscribed under your Internet
address and sending  this command via BITNET, or vice  versa. Most BITNET
sites  have  registered their  Internet  addresses  in the  BITNET  nodes
database, BITEARN NODES (the "tag"  containing this information is called
':internet' - if you do not understand  any of this, just bring a copy of
this message to your user support people). Unfortunately, some sites have
still not done that,  and in such cases LISTSERV has  no way to determine
that, for  instance, BITNET  node XYZCOL1  is the  same as  Internet host
VM3.XYZ.EDU. If  you suspect  this might be  your problem,  try resending
your request via both interactive message (SEND under VMS, TELL under VM)
and e-mail.

3. You  might be subscribed under  an equivalent yet different  address -
for  instance, one  with explicit  gatewaying, or  an X.400  address with
different  ordering of  the various  components,  etc. You  could send  a
"REVIEW DesignerCouncil" command and inspect  the list membership to find
out whether  this is  the case, and  ask the list  owners to  remove that
address from the list.

4. You could be subscribed to  the list under another account, from which
mail  is being  automatically forwarded  to your  [log in to unmask]
account. In that case  you should be able to leave  the list by resending
the signoff request from the account in question.

5. You could be subscribed to the list indirectly, via a "redistribution"
list. That is, one  of the subscribers to the LISTSERV list  is in fact a
mailing  list, to  which  you  are yourself  subscribed  (note that  this
"sub-list"  is not  necessarily managed  by LISTSERV  and, in  fact, such
lists are often manually maintained, in  which case the only way to leave
the list is  to contact the person  who maintains it). Since  you are not
directly  subscribed to  DesignerCouncil, the  only way  for you  to stop
getting the  postings is to  contact the administrators of  this sub-list
and ask them to sign you off.

You should be able to contact the  list owners by simply replying to this
message (if you  do not know how  to reply to a message  in your mailbox,
you can send a new message to [log in to unmask] instead).