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"Brooks,Bill" <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:57:13 -0800
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Hi Barbara,

Congratz on conquering cancer! I know that is an ordeal of the highest
order.
I did not know Max Thorson but I have heard his named mentioned over and
over in the meetings with other designers... In fact I think I have
exchanged e-mails with him before sometime back...

 We owe Max our gratitude along with some others for the great organization
we have today... It has taken a lot of effort by some truly exceptional
people to get us to where we are today... and we need the efforts of more
good designers to keep it going.

The IPC has contributed greatly to the success of the DC and indeed we need
to thank them for that... Also Pete, Mike and their group have been doing
much of the ground work and support for the Designers over the years too...
as they still do. We do need both organizations, working together. I think
other designers need to add their voices to the ones that are representing
them in the meetings and let the IPC and UP Media know we appreciate their
work and we need them to support our needs as well. They need to hear it
from all of you...

I think we are really in a year of growth and this downturn we have been
experiencing is going to end. There's plenty of opportunity to go around and
both organization will benefit from providing good service to our designer
members.

Mike Buetow is right.... it is a damn noble thing to stand up for your
fellow designers and support their success in this industry... and as long
as we have the power to do so, we can help each other improve the lot of our
fellow designers. 'For Designers By Designers'... I know it inspired me to
do more...

Thanks for sharing your memories... I too spent a lot of my career with a
knife and tape and Mylar... It was difficult to change from the board to the
CRT but we did it... There is so much more to learn now than we ever had to
learn before... where will the kids get that knowledge? That one concerns me
more than anything else... Keep on encouraging others and try to mentor
someone if you can... we aren't getting any younger...

Great to hear from you :)

Best regards,


Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
e-mail:[log in to unmask]
http://www.dtwc.com
http://pcbwizards.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Burcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 2:48 PM
To: (Designers Council Forum); Brooks,Bill
Subject: RE: [DC] [TN] Where was the IPC for the Design Conference?

Hey Bill,
Thanks for the reply.

You have tweaked some fond memories for me.
I have been doing PCB Design for over 30 years.
For 13 years I did freelance work out of my home office. I had cancer
and stopped for a couple of years while going through treatment
(applase, please, I am a 15 year survivor).
When I was ready to begin working again, my light table, x-acto knife,
and matte tape had been replaced with CAD software.
I went to work for Halliburton to learn "tools".

While there, I ran into the son of a designer from my past, JoAnn
Yeakley. JoAnn was just helping Max Thorson to start up the Houston
Chapter of the IPC Designer Council and that was my introduction.

I became involved and began a quest of knowledge and it has been a
wonderful opportunity. (thank you, IPC)

At that time, I did not know there was a trade magazine for PCB Design
(thank you, UP Media) or a Conference, or available IPC Standards.

Back then, the training through IPC was targeted toward fabrication and,
while I need to know that, it was not my main focus.

So, here I am today, all these years later, confused by the concept that
two fine entities would hesitate to work together to support our
industry and the fine folks involved in it.
Think....about the old image of tearing a single sheet of paper is easy,
tearing a phone book is impossible.

IPC, please don't take your toys and go home in a huff. Let us see you
at the next Design Conference.

By the way, I took a very close look at the venue at APEX and, since the
two are so close together in timing, I had to choose one or the other.
APEX still looked heavy on the Fab and Assy side and I needed a full
week of classes in the design area. Please keep working on this.

I, the little back-home designer, need you both. Really!

Barbara J. Burcham, C.I.D.
Fairfield Industries, Inc
281-275-7687
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-----Original Message-----
From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Brooks,Bill
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 4:24 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [DC] [TN] Where was the IPC for the Design Conference?

I think they have had some financial issues of late... They are trying
to
influence the designers to come to the IPC events rather than attend 2
separate events...

The DC executive committee has indicated the need to have a booth at PCB
WEST and EAST... So far it has met by the IPC management with a cold
reception.

Believe me we are working on it, however we are only an advisory body of
volunteer designers and IPC holds the purse strings.

I hope we can convince them to return to the PCB West and East
conferences
soon. That's where I found out about the DC and would never have even
known
there was a Designers Council if they had not set up a booth there back
in
2000. We should be at both events every year.

Thanks for the comment Barbara, stay tuned for further developments...


Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
PCB Design Engineer , C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
e-mail:[log in to unmask]
http://www.dtwc.com
http://pcbwizards.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Burcham [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:48 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] Where was the IPC for the Design Conference?

I attended the PCB Design Conference West last week and cruised the Show
Floor looking for the IPC Booth.

Alas, it was not there.

I miss it and was wanting to purchase some Specs, but could not. Past
years, the IPC has had a Presense at any Design Conference that I have
attended.

What happened? Don't they love us any more?



Barbara J. Burcham, C.I.D.

Fairfield Industries, Inc

281-275-7687

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