Well said, very well said.
Gary Boccoleri
Bivio Networks
925-924-8621
www.bivio.net
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: George Patrick [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:28 PM
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: [DC] Designing PCB footprints
> >>
> >>I don't know if Caterpillar is "wasting" you, but most "engineers"
make
> >>a
> >>bit more of the green stuff and get a lot more recognition for their
> >>contribution to a product than most "designers" do. If your
employer is
> >>paying you less than a BSEET doing circuit design, you may be
"wasting"
> >>yourself :)
> >>
> >>For what it's worth, I know more than a few BSEE types that consider
a
> >>BSEET
> >>nothing but a technician -- usually the arrogant ignoramuses, but
there
> >>are
> >>some out there. I also know some excellent engineers that don't
have a
> >>4
> >>year degree and make the BSEEs look foolish. Me, I'm a high school
> >>dropout.
> >>I am NOT throwing rotten tomatoes, and I can understand doing
something
> >>because you enjoy it. But if a company is paying for a "layout
> >>technician"
> >>and receiving the services of a "Hardware Engineer" it is a shame
and
> >>should
> >>be addressed.
> >>
> >><:^)
> >>
> >>--
> >>George Patrick
> >>Tektronix, Inc.
> >>Central Engineering, PCB Design Group
> >>P.O. Box 500, M/S 39-512
> >>Beaverton, OR 97077-0001
> >>Phone: 503-627-5272 Fax: 503-627-5587
> >>http://www.tektronix.com http://www.pcb-designer.com
> >>
> >>It's my opinion, not Tektronix'
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
Jack
> >>C.
> >>Olson
> >>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 12:08
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: [DC] Designing PCB footprints
> >>
> >>
> >>I disagree with your statement that PCB design is a "waste" of
> >>engineering
> >>talent, unless the only boards you do are no-brainer
connect-the-dots
> >>junk.
> >>I'm an engineer, and I love solving these puzzles.
> >>I DON'T enjoy creating schematics.
> >>Is Caterpillar "wasting" me?
> >>
> >>Be careful how you lump people together...
> >>
> >>turning ideas into reality,
> >>Jack, BSEET & Circuit Board Designer extra-ordinaire!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Gary Boccoleri
> >> <gboccoleri@BIVIO
> >> .NET>
> >> Sent by:
> >>To
> >> DesignerCouncil
> >>To
> >> <DesignerCouncil@ [log in to unmask]
> >> ipc.org>
> >>cc
> >>
> >>
> >> 02/09/2005 11:17
> >> AM
> >>
> >>
> >>Subject
> >> Please respond to Re: [DC] Designing PCB
footprints
> >> "(Designers
> >> Council Forum)"
> >> <DesignerCouncil@
> >> IPC.ORG>; Please
> >> respond to
> >> Gary Boccoleri
> >> <gboccoleri@BIVIO
> >> .NET>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Caterpillar: Confidential Green Retain Until:
03/11/2005
> >> Retention Category:
G90
> >>-
> >> General
> >>
Matters/Administration
> >>
> >>
> >>Karl brings up a point that really hits home with me. I see a lot of
job
> >>listings for engineers that actually include PCB layout. Seems like
a
> >>waste of engineering talent in all but the smallest companies.
Although
> >>it's not as bad as the designer add that asked for 2 years of design
> >>experience and 4 years of Allegro.
> >>
> >>Gary Boccoleri
> >>Bivio Networks
> >>925-924-8621
> >>www.bivio.net
> >>
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