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Hi Steve,
 

First, the designer is part of a Team.  Each member of the team has a  
different responsibility for the success of the project.  The designer is  
responsible for combining the requirements of the EE and ME into the circuit  
board and making sure it can be processed by manufacturing.  That's  it.  
 
The EE is responsible for the functionality of the electronic design.   The 
ME is responsible for the mechanical functionality of the design. And the  
manufacturing groups are responsible for making sure their processes meet 
the  specs laid out by the design team.  The company is responsible for the 
end  product.
 
The designer may follow up with the other team members to find  out what 
worked and didn't work with the design.  This will help with their  ability to 
produce better future designs.  However, once the EE & ME  have examined 
and approved the design, the manufacturers  have agreed that they can build it 
per the specs, then the  designer is done with their part.  
 
Changes to the design based on a change to the original requirements from  
any of the other team members for any reason, are the start of a new design  
cycle (or REVISION).  The original designer may be part of that revision  
cycle or it may be assigned to another designer.   
 
I've seen variations on this over the years depending on company policies,  
contract negotiations, and miss-understandings of who does what.  Many  
companies have tried to combine the designer responsibilities with either the 
EE  or the ME or even the manufacturers.  These usually creates confusion, 
time  delays, and friction in the team.
 
 If a company has a defined PROCESS and they follow  it, then everything 
goes much smoother (and costs less). Also,  don't rush the process.  The best 
results come from a good steady pace with  everyone doing their part and 
supporting each other instead of looking to place  blame.  Having quick design 
reviews on a weekly basis with the whole team  really helps stop delays down 
the line.
 
Hope that helps,
Cherie  Litson, IPC-CID+/CMIT
Litson1 Consulting
PCB Design Solutions &  Training
206-619-8844 [log in to unmask]  

 
In a message dated 2/10/2016 8:46:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
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Well, I  think that needs to be qualified up front in the design cycle, so 
the correct  types of components and materials are selected to meet the 
specified  requirements. 

That's not really what I'm driving at in my question  though. What I'm 
looking for relates more to how far do we as designers  ACTIVELY go in tracking 
the status of a board once it's assembled and handed  over to EE's or 
manufacturing. Is it our responsibility to know if the board  is performing as it 
should? Are we directly responsible to find out that  information?

Steve Horvath
SR. PCB Designer - CID/ Team Lead
AME  Test Group
O: +1 630.285.5840  | M: +1 630.788.3429



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From: DesignerCouncil  [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ioan 
Tempea
Sent: Wednesday,  February 10, 2016 10:06 AM
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Subject: Re: [DC]  Designer's Responsibility ends.....when?

Hi Steve,

You might not  want to hear this, but, besides function, the design shall 
also ensure long  term reliability. And since the long term reliability goes 
all the way until  the end of the life cycle of the product, the designer 
should be liable a long  time after the design is completed and successfully 
tested for  functionality.

I suggest IPC-D-279 as a good reading.

Best  regards,

Ioan Tempea, P. Eng.
Manufacturing Engineer, Satellite  Systems 

MacDonald, Dettwiler and Associates Corporation, 21025  Trans-Canada 
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Horvath, Steven  Envoyé : Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:56 AM À :  
[log in to unmask] Objet : [DC] Designer's Responsibility  ends.....when?

Hello:


Just want to get an opinion on a  certain matter. Where does a designers 
responsibility end? After successful  assembly, after successful functional 
tests by EE's? System test? By  responsibility, I mean tracking wise. Should 
we be chasing after EE's to make  sure everything tested out okay, while were 
busy designing another board? How  far do we chase? How far do they (MGMT) 
expect YOU to chase?

Thank  You,




Steve Horvath
SR. PCB Designer - CID/ Team  Lead
AME Test Group
O: +1 630.285.5840  | M: +1  630.788.3429



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