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Bill,

I think it is a great initiative and hope it will be available for download somewhere ;o)

I think a tougher job would be though writing a presentation on how to write fab drawings. I don't know if this is covered in the CID classes, but I surely know that 90% of the fab drawings that I see are either meaningless, or have exagerated requirements. Not to mention that at least 25% of the PCBs that I check have no fab drawings!

Any clues on where to find guidelines on writing tech notes for PCBs?

Regards,
Ioan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [SMTP:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brooks,Bill
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 4:27 PM
> To:   [log in to unmask]
> Subject:      [DC] Reading Fab Drawings
> 
> Thanks... it's reassuring to see there are some folks out there...:) not
> everyone is away on holiday are they???
> 
> I hope your summer is going great... We have been very, very busy and I
> figure that's the same for most of you...
> 
> I'm planning on putting together a little presentation on 'Reading Fab
> Drawings' over the next week or so. It's a good subject, pondered by many
> folks who have had to interpret the drawings we send them to build our
> boards from... I'm sure we could all benefit from the use of better
> communications...
> 
> I have had on occasion received boards that came in that were mostly
> 'artistic renditions' of what was really asked for... by that I mean somehow
> the cam operator on the other end interpreted the drawing to allow break
> away tie points in the assembly panel that weren't in the drawing or removed
> others that were needed to support the board in the panel and were drawn on
> the drawing... We have to indicate the location of any break away tie points
> exactly in order to avoid problems with traces or parts sitting too close to
> the break away point and over stressing them during Singulation or
> de-panelization.
> 
> Board materials sometimes don't meet spec, copper and board thickness can
> vary widely with too general or non-specific notes. I sometimes wonder if
> the 'language' used in the notes doesn't drive this or if they even read the
> drawings at all... After you get to know the folks in your receiving
> inspection department you will undoubtedly see some of these sort of
> variations, especially when you switch vendors... Oh boy! Watch those first
> batches of boards that come in closely...
> 
> At any rate, any pointers, experiences, or stories you all have for the
> short presentation are most appreciated... I'll be happy to draw on your
> experiences in creating it...
> 
> 
> Of course, have a terrific summer... it goes by very quickly!
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 
> Bill Brooks - KG6VVP
> PCB Design Engineer, C.I.D.+, C.I.I.
> Tel: (760)597-1500 Ext 3772 Fax: (760)597-1510
> Datron World Communications, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brionez, Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 11:55 AM
> To: (Designers Council Forum); Brooks,Bill
> Subject: RE: [DC] test -
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> Were here! Were here!
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